tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896561.post111574219703153148..comments2023-04-04T08:59:32.836-05:00Comments on shaken & stirred: gilmore gossip circle and one of those cliche apologiesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896561.post-1115866956037056282005-05-11T22:02:00.000-05:002005-05-11T22:02:00.000-05:00Late comments, since I didn't see the ep last nigh...Late comments, since I didn't see the ep last night.<BR/><BR/>I'm in agreement with everyone on the Town Elders / Star Wars Yay!<BR/><BR/>The visual of Kirk's non-chest may be burned into my head forever.<BR/><BR/>I think Papa Huntzberger was totally on the money, and that Logan was not involved. Rory needs someone to tell her what to do, to define what success is. Also, she needs a MUCH thicker skin, not just at work but generally.<BR/><BR/>I am beyond frustrated with the Emily / Lorelai thing. You don't go from "You and me... we're through", to one awkward dinner (where Emily beats on Lorelai the whole time), to everything is peachy. You especially don't do it without some kind of character justification. <BR/><BR/>And the resolve of the article storyline was just weak.Chris McLarenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15264173401683254076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896561.post-1115836832127638552005-05-11T13:40:00.000-05:002005-05-11T13:40:00.000-05:00Yes, I love you all and your Gilmore Girls observa...Yes, I love you all and your Gilmore Girls observations. <BR/><BR/>I am intrigued by the idea of Logan somehow arranging for Papa Huntzberger to play the heavy with Rory. Frankly, one of the things I found irritating there was the (absolutely realistic) denigration of assistants -- it's REALLY hard to be a good assistant, so in my world that's not a slam but in someone like PH's it is. I don't understand how Rory could have shown the killer instinct; her job seems to be following him around, doing errands and the such, not busting people's chops and writing stories. <BR/><BR/>I'm kind of liking fuck up Rory though. It feels real to me. She's so bad at trying to be an adult on her own, because she was so good all those years. It feels very organic to me.<BR/><BR/>And on L & L: let it be said that if the spoilers I saw are true, you will all be very happy next week!Gwendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05774768214058868450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896561.post-1115820308731508212005-05-11T09:05:00.000-05:002005-05-11T09:05:00.000-05:00Everybody's so erudite and observant! I agree with...Everybody's so erudite and observant! I agree with all of you! All of you!<BR/><BR/>I just want to join Karen in expressing my fervent hope that Luke and Lorelai (funny how it's easier to say it in that order--having grown up in the eighties I was programmed by "Luke and Laura") only have twists. No roadblocks. Actually, I don't even want speedbumps.<BR/><BR/>And hey, it's not like I'm crazy about Logan, but she did talk him into it. Rory's been leading with her chin all year.<BR/><BR/>PS Did anybody recognize the voice (possibly dubbed) of the Wise Old Councilor? Seemed like I did, but maybe it's just a generic Wise Old Councilor voice. Watch, it'll turn out that my eighties programming is complete and it's the same guy that did the voice of the Dungeon Master on that Willie Ames D&D cartoon.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05667132767958694565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896561.post-1115820254251467442005-05-11T09:04:00.000-05:002005-05-11T09:04:00.000-05:00I totally think that Rory can do the job; I think ...I totally think that Rory can do the job; I think that is what makes the criticisms so infuriating. And he says that Rory would make a good assistant, but he never gave her an idea of what her internship consisted of in the first place. Which he then uses as evidence of his point. He hasn't seen the articles she has written for the Franklin, or for the paper at Yale, I suspect. It is interesting to think that Rory may be directionless for the first time next season.<BR/><BR/>Isn't Mr. Huntzberger's description of what it takes to be a good journalist basically amount to a description of Logan?<BR/><BR/>I don't actually think Logan had anything to do with Papa's assessment; however, it did occur to me that the rest of the family may have something to do with it. Maybe they see that Logan is (relatively) serious about Rory, and decided that, while they can't improve the family that she came from, they could undermine her confidence in pursuing a career. <BR/><BR/>The idea that Kirk finally has an area where he is fully capable -- financial matters -- is absolutely wonderful. I presume he will not be sleeping on Lorelai's couch any more.Bill S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12786195100780643845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896561.post-1115789796099215632005-05-11T00:36:00.000-05:002005-05-11T00:36:00.000-05:00Umm... am I the only one who thought Papa Huntzber...Umm... am I the only one who thought Papa Huntzberger was reacting to pressure from his son to cut Rory free and have her not working all summer (off camera, I am filling in the blanks here). I thought the whole rory kicking ass a la broadcast news was to establish her competency, not her incompetency. Then Logan whines about her not having free time, cut to Dad giving her the bad news... I could be off-base, but I think Logan had a hand in this somehow...(plus I think he was flirting w/ the blonde on the boat, married with kids or not). who knows.. tune in next week!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896561.post-1115782448262785402005-05-10T22:34:00.000-05:002005-05-10T22:34:00.000-05:00Just insert: LUKE, I AM YOUR FATHER.Just insert: LUKE, I AM YOUR FATHER.Gwendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05774768214058868450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896561.post-1115782425824916462005-05-10T22:33:00.000-05:002005-05-10T22:33:00.000-05:00I will say more tomorrow, but I have to say: I bro...I will say more tomorrow, but I have to say: I broke down and went out in search of spoilers today and supposedly EXACTLY what I'd want if I were writing this show is going to happen in the A romantic storyline next week so: yay! unless it doesn't. Also, nothing I say tomorrow will have anything to do with spoilers.<BR/><BR/>I LOVED the steam room scene and also the sudden revelation that Kirk is rich. I thought the Star Wars hat tip was so cute.Gwendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05774768214058868450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896561.post-1115781880777764932005-05-10T22:24:00.000-05:002005-05-10T22:24:00.000-05:00I dunno; isn't the house basically just Luke propo...I dunno; isn't the house basically just Luke proposing? Isn't the coyness of the WBs previews just another case of them trying to milk it for all it's worth?<BR/><BR/>Papa Huntzberger was right, of course, but we also know that he is not unbiased in his assessment. And instead of getting angry and resolving to do everything she can to prove him wrong, Rory just sort of collapses immediately. It occurs to me that Rory is pretty sheltered, and she grew up in a town that offered her nothing but positive reinforcement her whole life -- she was always the pride of Stars Hollow. Her reaction pissed me off, but was totally understandable. In spite of thinking that Logan is bad news, I do actually think that he cares for her. I think that if Rory had just told him what happened, or if she had told her mother or grandmother, they could have talked her down off of the proverbial ledge. But the fact that she so craves validation sort of reinforces Papa's criticisms. <BR/><BR/>For some reason, during the scene in the sauna, I just sort of had "Angel" flashbacks. Particularly when the hooded guy started prophesizing about Luke's future. It didn't help that Taylor kept calling them "the powers that be". <BR/><BR/>I like the fact that the big teaser for this episode lasted about the length of a commercial break, and was predicated on Lorelai's lack of fruit intake. I was expecting the shot (apparently ubiquitous in TV nowadays) of her waiting until the timer dinged to check what color the strip was. Maybe her body is just trying to tell her mind that she's ready to have kids with Luke?<BR/><BR/>Because Lorelai actually seemed to have a decent relationship -- with communication! -- with her mother, I suspect next week, in the wake of Rory's misadventures, their relationship will go nuclear. You have to suspect that Emily will lay all the blame for this on Lorelai, rather than to admit darling Logan wasn't the sort of person Rory should have been dating in the first place. I mean, he comes from such good stock! Just think back to Emily's reaction when Rory and Dean stayed out all night, all those seasons ago. Every time the relationship between the two women thaws, that means that disaster is just around the corner, and this time that disaster is a felony. Even if Emily does recognize Logan's role in all this, you cannot expect that she will admit she was wrong. <BR/><BR/>Did it take anybody else by surprise that, after attending Friday night dinners again for the first time last week, Lorelai and Emily were on such good terms this week? Granted, Emily was concentrating on adopting a dancer most of the time, and it did eventually occur to me that, since the internship Rory started last week was coming to an end this week, a fair amount of time had passed, but it took me a bit to catch on. Maybe they mentioned it in the script; maybe I'm just slow.Bill S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12786195100780643845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896561.post-1115777183267786392005-05-10T21:06:00.000-05:002005-05-10T21:06:00.000-05:00I dunno, I enjoyed this week's episode but a lot o...I dunno, I enjoyed this week's episode but a lot of it felt like filler. Like, Sukie needs to have her baby so let's make up a couple of cute little cute plots around that and get it done. Luke has to buy the house so let's throw in a quirky complication around that and get it done. All the buildup around Lorelei's interview comes to nothing much (so far). It was all okay; I enjoyed the mysterious Town Elders, and it was a relief that we didn't have to ride out yet another big Emily blowup. Just felt like one of those necessary but not really juicy episodes where you tie up loose plot ends.<BR/><BR/>Except! for what Logan's dad said to Rory, and her reaction. This was interesting, because from the teaser I expected he was just going to knock her down to be a jerk but you know what, he actually has a point. He might be making it for biased reasons, but he's right that it's a flaw in Rory-as-journalist that she's so well-mannered. She's been a little sheltered; good things have always come her way as long as she's done really well at whatever she was supposed to do. But she's chosen a career that requires a lot of initiative, and she'll have to make her own opportunities and not just wait around for someone to give her instructions.<BR/><BR/>That said, the guy's a jerk. But we knew that.<BR/><BR/>I think Logan will propose to her now that she's at a low point and unsure of what to do with her life. He'll effectively be offering her the life that Lorelei was raised to have, and it's got to be a comforting fallback. I hope that's what's going to happen next week, because it's a much more intriguing situation than just Luke proposing to Lorelei.<BR/><BR/>KarenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com